Spider film rant

[Wombat2112]

In the past week I have been watching the Marvel Spiderman films of the last 20 years starting with the 3 films that Toby Macguire played Peter Parker. And then I watched the Amazing Spiderman films where they put in a little back story centering around Peter's dad's lab work. Later I finished up watching the latest versions that kind of connect with the Avengers films and I just had to wonder why did it take 3 versions or 2 reboots in order to keep this franchise going in film. I feel like so much time gets wasted when we have to spend more than half of the first film in each version telling the same story and beginning of how he became Spiderman. Too much time in film today is wasted on telling origin stories. It's great to have origins and it certainly helps us understand how things came about more but everyone knows he's Peter Parker  and so much time is wasted showing us the same beginning we already know and how Uncle Ben gets killed-we start allover again lol. I like the fact that each film in all versions chose their own original villain. I loved the Lizard from the 1st reboot. But sometimes I think these films could have been named the adventures of Peter Parker because we have to spend so much time in reverse and focusing on his personal life rather than focusing on the story that really gets us interested.  That being focusing on how he New York's greatest super hero and portraying the real struggle against the super villains like Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, etc. who seek to wreak havoc and evil.  Which is far more interesting content than seeing an hour of his high school life. It's not Dawson's Creek it's Spiderman! (LOL)

 

[danno]

I absolutely detest Tom Holland's Spider-man, I can't stand how child like they've made him, All his action and web swinging scenes are like some idiot accidently fumbling through it and by dumb luck he just makes it work out.

I'm a big fan of 80's/90's comic book Spider-man the era when he was actually a man and he'd do things like take on the whole avengers instead of being an Iron man fan boy who really wants to win Tony starks approval like nowadays.. Just look at this comic book cover!!!

Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies weren't too bad, Andrew managed to capture peters wit, scientific aspects and personal pain while Tobey really grabbed the hero aspect of spider man and love for Mary Jane. They both shown the great power and responsibility of the character despite being so young but Tom Holland???? There's nothing there, the costume actually speaks louder than the character that's how unrelatable he is, the only aspect of the character I can relate to Tom Hollands spider man is his awkwardness and the stretch that too far over all the films.....that's it I don't know what iteration of the character Tom Hollands suppose to play but it's none I've come across so I guess It's not for me, sad to see what they've done to my favourite hero. I wanna rant so bad but I'm jet lagged  ;D

How endgame should of ended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjm3t4gwcqo

 

[oldyz]

Wombat2112 & danno

man, the truth is we have enough spiderman material to release a movie every year

i like all the spidey movies, but here is a breakdown of the parts i did not like:

Tobey, i don't like his face, for some reason he does not look like Peter Parker, Doc octopus was perfect, The green goblin close, Venom needed more time to develop well, Sandman was very good - the organic webshooters tho.... that was a bit odd

Garfiel looked a bit more like a Peter Parker, but more like an adult version, Lizard was Ok, Electro had the right power level & effects, but not the right personality - the Rhino was a weird different take - i would like to have seen more of those movies...

Tom, he does look like a Peter Parker, but unfortunately his universe did force him too soon  in to weird circumstances that  where more suited for a more mature Peter, Vulture was great & Mysterio was well done too, but they would have been even better in the Tobey universe (as they are portrayed)- if there was a way to make their stories fit within them...

The problem with movies & live action tho, is that actors start demanding more money, & they get tired of the roles, so there is no way of making a huge arc like the 1990's spiderman, so the next best thing i think is to start making movies using unreal engine & realistic cgi models, get motion facial & voice actors that are able to commit to the roles to an almost crazy Adam West level, & try to fix the mess that marvel IPs are in: the lack of mutants, & other stuff they currently cant "mix".

 

[CosmoBuggi]

Batman 1989 is a good example of how to start a movie franchise based on a comic book character, but not delve too deep into his backstory, or retell it thousands of times. You get a pretty good idea of how he came to be, without devoting too much time to it.

 

[Bloodbane]

I feel like so much time gets wasted when we have to spend more than half of the first film in each version telling the same story and beginning of how he became Spiderman. Too much time in film today is wasted on telling origin stories. It's great to have origins and it certainly helps us understand how things came about more but everyone knows he's Peter Parker  and so much time is wasted showing us the same beginning we already know and how Uncle Ben gets killed-we start allover again lol.

I agree with you there. I don't see good reason for retelling Spiderman's origin. I rather see movie where Spiderman fights Lizard as continued story after Spiderman 3 (where he fights Venom and Sandman) with Garfield as the actor than reboot.
Speaking of which, Sandman is okay but Venom is not. I prefer big muscular Venom than junior version.

It's not Dawson's Creek it's Spiderman! (LOL)

Maybe it really was meant for teens.

man, the truth is we have enough spiderman material to release a movie every year

Yeah, I still wonder if there were going to be movie where Spiderman fights Carnage.

 

[rgveda99]

There are rumors they've making a live action Spider-verse with Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire along with some of the old actors like Jamie Foxx.