Damon Caskey Thanks as always. The reason I wondered was in a case like here and its just conceptual art it won't be angled isometric or anything but I would like to make visible enough so the player can see just a little down the pipe. My intent: is for the little unamed "things" or somehing else to rise out of the pipes and kinda shift from where they are to in front of the little ship's path as some kind obstacle enemy entity attacking or simply avoid crashing into them altogether I guess proper coordinates/offset will take care of that. Man I hope this works lol