Anyone know what happened to the guardians of the hood 2 thread?
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O Ilusionista
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nsw25 I agree with you in some parts, but I disagree in others.
The parts I agree:
- The forum rules should be highlighted in the menu or on the home page (I find the idea of the menu more interesting) http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?topic=2403.0
- Some topics should simply be deleted, like the one you mentioned. But I understand that DC did not do this precisely so that people could see the threats that were being made (believe me, we get this constantly). I think differently about that.
- All offensive content must be reported. We need the help of members to keep up with this - as you have been helping us a lot. We can't see all the topics all the time, but once the content is reported, it is looked at.
The parts I don't agree with:
- Maybe it is a language barrier, but the way you wrote that "topics are manipulated" implied that the administration manipulates content, which is not true. The maximum that is done is edit to remove links to NSFW content, viruses, etc.
- "Newbies start off on the wrong foot when receiving feedback" this is not due to the fact that the rules are not in evidence, but the person's inability. There are social skills - such as common sense and education - that need to exist in the person, regardless of the forum rules. If the person does not have this, it is not we who will teach him. After all, we are all adults and we should act like adults - or at least that's what is expected.
The administration has the rule of not advertising when a user is banned (and I understand that it really is a matter that concerns only the person and the administration). In regards to Davpreec , I asked Damon Caskey to explain what happened. But, as a rule, we don't do this to avoid starting heated discussions - and the topics are not deleted, they are moved to an administrative area.
We are not in the habit of banishing anyone without a very strong reason. And, usually, this is preceded by warnings and other measures, so that the person can redeem himself.
There were cases where people were banned and later forgiven, given a second chance and allowed to return. Some people choose the right path, but others do not. In that case, there is no third chance.
Our ultimate goal is to maintain a healthy community, where people can exchange information and help each other. And that unfortunately includes removing some bad apples so as not to harm good apples.
The parts I agree:
- The forum rules should be highlighted in the menu or on the home page (I find the idea of the menu more interesting) http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?topic=2403.0
- Some topics should simply be deleted, like the one you mentioned. But I understand that DC did not do this precisely so that people could see the threats that were being made (believe me, we get this constantly). I think differently about that.
- All offensive content must be reported. We need the help of members to keep up with this - as you have been helping us a lot. We can't see all the topics all the time, but once the content is reported, it is looked at.
The parts I don't agree with:
- Maybe it is a language barrier, but the way you wrote that "topics are manipulated" implied that the administration manipulates content, which is not true. The maximum that is done is edit to remove links to NSFW content, viruses, etc.
- "Newbies start off on the wrong foot when receiving feedback" this is not due to the fact that the rules are not in evidence, but the person's inability. There are social skills - such as common sense and education - that need to exist in the person, regardless of the forum rules. If the person does not have this, it is not we who will teach him. After all, we are all adults and we should act like adults - or at least that's what is expected.
The administration has the rule of not advertising when a user is banned (and I understand that it really is a matter that concerns only the person and the administration). In regards to Davpreec , I asked Damon Caskey to explain what happened. But, as a rule, we don't do this to avoid starting heated discussions - and the topics are not deleted, they are moved to an administrative area.
We are not in the habit of banishing anyone without a very strong reason. And, usually, this is preceded by warnings and other measures, so that the person can redeem himself.
There were cases where people were banned and later forgiven, given a second chance and allowed to return. Some people choose the right path, but others do not. In that case, there is no third chance.
Our ultimate goal is to maintain a healthy community, where people can exchange information and help each other. And that unfortunately includes removing some bad apples so as not to harm good apples.
nsw25 , the rules ARE spelled out, they have a whole division of the forum dedicated to them, and new members have to sign an agreement to said rules when they create an account. What do you want me to do, show up at people's houses and pin them on the refrigerator?
Incidentally, in said rules the results of bad behavior are also spelled out, and one of them says we deal with issues case by case with all effort to be fair as possible to the community as a whole. When a member makes clear they are taking their ball and going home - with full intention to siphon off traffic through links, videos, etc. then I feel they should not get to keep their material here as a billboard. Ultimately that hurts the community a lot more than the loss of one project. That's a very different situation from one random nutcase who wanted a real life throwdown with me (or so he said). I might also add the thread is archived, not deleted.
Also, you are right about one thing - we have had an influx of bad behavior lately, and not just from new members. I was forced to ban one my favorite community members yesterday, someone who I considered a friend, consistently contributed high quality work and (until recently) was helpful to other members. That really sucked, but they forced my hand.
I'd been trying to relax a bit and let some things slide here and there in general - believe or or not I'd rather participate in the community than police it, but clearly I need to tighten the reigns up a bit before we backslide into an old Mugen or Youtube snark fest.
Edit: Added Enforcement section specifically about how rules are applied.
DC
Incidentally, in said rules the results of bad behavior are also spelled out, and one of them says we deal with issues case by case with all effort to be fair as possible to the community as a whole. When a member makes clear they are taking their ball and going home - with full intention to siphon off traffic through links, videos, etc. then I feel they should not get to keep their material here as a billboard. Ultimately that hurts the community a lot more than the loss of one project. That's a very different situation from one random nutcase who wanted a real life throwdown with me (or so he said). I might also add the thread is archived, not deleted.
Also, you are right about one thing - we have had an influx of bad behavior lately, and not just from new members. I was forced to ban one my favorite community members yesterday, someone who I considered a friend, consistently contributed high quality work and (until recently) was helpful to other members. That really sucked, but they forced my hand.
I'd been trying to relax a bit and let some things slide here and there in general - believe or or not I'd rather participate in the community than police it, but clearly I need to tighten the reigns up a bit before we backslide into an old Mugen or Youtube snark fest.
Edit: Added Enforcement section specifically about how rules are applied.
DC
O Ilusionista
Captain 100K
Just to try to help a tad, I've added into the news bar a link to the forum rules
To solve all of this I would add a rule that if you harrass other users then your content might be /will be removed when you get banned.
That would solve the mystery.
I think its fine to stop promoting work of users who lean towards drama and fight online attacking personal opinions.
I also think that this kind of rule will make them think twice.But again, thts just my opinion.You disagree, totally fine.
Overall, its just a forum people, if half of my posts/threads would disappear today, so what.
Id make a sandwich for myself or something to make up for it, there are more important things to worry about than logs of convos on internet.
Questioning staff and admins about disappearing this and that... its strange, people have that picture of "fairness" and i understand that but its not how the world works and we arent bonded by any laws or whatever.Come on.
That would solve the mystery.
I think its fine to stop promoting work of users who lean towards drama and fight online attacking personal opinions.
I also think that this kind of rule will make them think twice.But again, thts just my opinion.You disagree, totally fine.
Overall, its just a forum people, if half of my posts/threads would disappear today, so what.
Id make a sandwich for myself or something to make up for it, there are more important things to worry about than logs of convos on internet.
Questioning staff and admins about disappearing this and that... its strange, people have that picture of "fairness" and i understand that but its not how the world works and we arent bonded by any laws or whatever.Come on.
dai92
Well-known member
Oh i wasn't aware the guy started so much drama i missed it all . So if that was the case i can't argue with that. Still a shame but it is what it is lol.
Damon Caskey you can close this thread and or remove it if you like buddy now i know what has happened.
Thanks
Damon Caskey you can close this thread and or remove it if you like buddy now i know what has happened.
Thanks
